You no longer need to be a hatchet-faced National Front refugee to join the whites-only club. The fascist menace no longer wears jackboots. It no longer flags down the number 25 bus with a hearty “Sieg Heil.” Nope, ours is a new, gentler, more airbrushed age. Feminism’s here, so now girls can dig race hate too. As the BNP’s attempts to reposition itself as a mainstream party have advanced its perimeter far beyond the usual crewcuts-n-tats brigade, we spoke to three of the more acceptable new faces of the unacceptable. What a bunch of hotties! Phwoar! Makes you aroused to be British.
Vice: How old are you?
Rebecca: 23.
What do you do for a living?
I’m a full-time mum.
What first attracted you to the BNP?
My husband. He’s been in the army for twelve years, and when I met him four years ago, he actually told me about the BNP and what they were doing. And from then on, I started to support them.
Are most of your friends BNP?
Yeah. Not particularly the people in our area, but our friends are.
When people say the BNP is a fascist party, what do you think?
Fascist – I don’t understand that word.
Think of Nazi Germany, or 1930s Italy.
I can’t even remember when that happened really, but I’m against them anyway.
You’re against who?
The Germans. I know that sounds evil… I was brought up that way.
But not the Nazis?
No, I don’t agree with that at all.
What’s the best thing about living in Britain today?
I hate Britain, and I want to move to Spain in the next couple of years, ‘cos our country’s not England anymore. It’s very rare for English people to live here anymore. When I went to Lanzarote, I felt more English there than I do here, and that’s no exaggeration.
But won’t you then be an immigrant too?
Yeah but the answer to that is I would go over to their country and respect their country. I wouldn’t go over there and try and do suicidal bombs [sic]. The immigrants that come over to this country should be making this a good country and proud of it and helping this country, but most of them don’t.
What do you think symbolizes Britain best?
Well, I used to know Britain as strong, and over the past couple of years, I don’t know if I’ve grown up, but I’ve seen it going soft. The memory I have is the war, and how we fighted [sic] all the people in WWI and WWII, and it makes me proud to be British.
Fish or chips?
Fish.
Alan Carr or Jimmy Carr?
Alan.
David Mellor or David Beckham?
Beckham.
Jesus Jones or Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ.
Hieronymus Bosch or a Bosch electric sander?
I don’t know them, I’ll just put the second one.
Plato or Playdough?
Playdough.
Towel or rag?
Towel.
Morrissey or Eric Clapton?
Morrissey.
Nick Nolte or Nick Griffin?
Nick Griffin.
In terms of the BNP’s repatriation policy on immigration, if you had to choose, who would you repatriate first, Dizzee Rascal or Tinchy Stryder?
The second one, because I’ve never heard of him and I like Dizzee Rascal.
Which do you dislike more: Muslims or Jews?
Muslims.
Do you think Nick Griffin is actually gay, or is that just a vicious rumour?
No. I think it’s a vicious rumour.
Have you seen him in the flesh? He’s quite mincey.
I’ve only seen him on the news. I really like him.
Do you think the anti-BNP movement are too overtly black?
Not really.
As a hypothetical solution to the immigration problem, what about dividing Britain down the middle, and using the left half for immigrants, and the right half for everyone else.
Sorry, I don’t get that. Am I’m being really thick? No. I don’t think so.
What if immigrants could prove their usefulness – shouldn’t they then be allowed to stay? For instance, if they began life here with a six-month period of forced labour? Perhaps spent making shoes for the rest of the population in a giant shoe factory in the East Midlands?
No. They shouldn’t come to Britain at all in the first place.
What about people who’ve grown up in Britain from a very young age, but aren’t, as the BNP would term it, “ethnically British”? When you repatriated them, don’t you think the BNP should first give them intensive lessons in speaking, for example, the Ghanaian language, and learning the skills of an agriculturally-based society?
No. I don’t think so. Just send them back. I know that sounds really evil…
OK, what if Ghana, or wherever, decrees that these immigrants are now Britain’s responsibilty – that they no longer have the right to live in Ghana. Do you think war with Ghana would be justified to force the issue, or would you simply propose a system of gradually-raised trade sanctions, possibly with the aid of a UN mandate?
I wouldn’t do the war, ‘cos I’m against war. Er, the other one…
Carol Thatcher – hero or villain?
Hero.
Al Jolson – hero or villain?
I don’t know who he is. Um, hero.
Mother Theresa – hero or villain.
Hero.
Hitler – hero or villian?
Villain.
Ant & Dec – heroes or villains?
Heroes.
Finally, has anything amusing ever happened to you in connection with spoons?
Spoons? No. I don’t follow.
Jo Bell, Newcastle
Vice: How old are you?
Jo: 19
What do you do for a living?
I haven’t got a job at the moment. I used to work in a call centre for TalkTalk. It was fun, but we got retrenched.
What attracted you to the BNP?
I just liked what they were saying. I think they’re talking the truth, standing up for what they believe in, not just saying what they think people want to hear.
Are most of your friends BNP?
Some of them are. I kind of got into it through my friend Danny. He’s really racist. Everyone calls him “Nazi Danny.” He started telling me about them, and it made a lot of sense.
When people say the BNP is a fascist party, what do you think?
What, to you, symbolizes Britain best?
Um, I’d say maybe St. George’s flag, partly because my favourite film is This Is England – it’s about skinheads, but they’re not really racist, because one of them is a black kid. They turn on him in the end, but because he was one of the gang they’re not really racist. They just believe in what they believe in.
Fish or chips?
Chips.
Alan Carr or Jimmy Carr?
Alan.
Princess Di or Jade Goody?
Jade.
Ant or Dec?
Dec.
Brown shirt or black shirt?
Black.
Bird in the hand or two in the bush?
Two in the bush.
Fred West or Stephen Fry?
Stephen Fry.
Morrissey or Eric Clapton?
Morrissey.
What do you think the BNP could do to improve its appeal to minority voters?
A lot of people have got an opinion against the BNP that they’re racists or bullies. I don’t think the BNP are a mainstream party that everyone should follow. I think they believe what they believe. I think if we came across more to the people, because I’ve spoken to people before, and they’ve been like, “Well, what is the BNP?” and they couldn’t even say what BNP stood for. A lot of people don’t really know much about it unless you’re quite racist or quite nationalist. So if they could explain themselves to people more clearly, a lot more people would listen.
Do you think Nick Griffin has concentrated his manifesto enough on the problem of falling house prices?
Not really, but I don’t think anyone is. I don’t think there’s anything that can really be done about it.
In terms of the BNP’s repatriation policy on immigration, if you had to choose, who would you repatriate first – Dizzee Rascal or Tinchy Stryder?
Dizzee Rascal. I know this is gonna sound horrible, because he’s the one who’s the most, like… because, my problem is that when immigrants come over to this country, they try and bring in their own churches and languages. And I think he expresses himself more as like an African or whatever he is, whereas Tinchy Stryder is more American. That’s the difference.
Which do you dislike more, Muslims or Hindus?
Muslims. They’re the ones who’ve got the most attention, they’re the ones who are kicking off about things the most. They’re more in the public eye as troublemakers.
If, as a hypothetical solution to the problem of immigration, we turned over one city to immigrants and made them all live there in a sort of ghetto, what city would you choose?
Birmingham, because it’s full of them anyway.
What if immigrants could prove their usefulness – should they then be allowed to stay? For instance, by selecting only immigrants who were extremely good-looking?
No. I just don’t think there should be any. You see, just because they’re black, I haven’t got a problem with that. If they’ve lived in the country for a long time and they’re working, and say they’re a doctor or they’re actually doing something. It’s when they’re getting benefits that I have a problem, ‘cos there’s plenty of people in our country who need our money and plenty of people who are British who are homeless, and they are just being given our money.
Is the problem one of culture, not ethnicity? For instance, would you be prepared to accept Muslims in your community if they all converted to Christianity, took part in maypole ceremonies on St. George’s day, took elocution lessons and dressed solely in Harris Tweed?
You mean if they weren’t trying to imply [sic] their own religion and if they acted like us? Well, I wouldn’t have as much of a problem. There’s a school in our town, and everyone jokes about it, like it’s spot-the-white-kid school. In the town now, they’ve got a religious school, and they’ve got lots of prayers in Arabic on the wall, and I think that’s just totally wrong. Yeah, they should learn our language. I find it really insulting. Like, in the call centre, people would ring up, and you’d ask to speak to the account holder and they’d go, “The account holder doesn’t speak English.” It used to really, really annoy us.
Peter Andre – hero or villain?
Aw, hero.
Jeremy Clarkson – hero or villain?
Hero.
Hero.
Villain.
Finally, has anything amusing ever happened to you in connection with spoons?
Spoons? As in, like, a spoon? I don’t think so.
Helen: 19. Wait, no, 18. 19 next month.
What do you do for a living?
I’m a kitchen assistant at the minute.
What first attracted you to the BNP?
I don’t know. I couldn’t really actually tell you. There were a couple of the sentences I agreed with. Basically about how immigrants are coming and taking people’s jobs and that.
Are most of your friends BNP?
Some of them are.
And your parents?
No. What are they? I think Liberal Democrat. I dunno.
Are there any BNP policies you disagree with?
Not so far, no, ‘cos I’m still in the middle of looking up all that about it at the moment.
When people say the BNP is a fascist party, what do you think?
Yes, in some ways it is. But there we are. It’s a hard decision. There’s some things I think are good and some things I think are bad, so it’s a hard decision to make, but it was the one party I felt closer to than any of the other parties.
Is there a big anti-BNP movement up in Newcastle? Do you get a lot of stick?
Not really.
Do you have arguments about it with people?
Sometimes, yeah. But not like heated arguments.
Fish or chips?
Fish.
Alan Carr or Jimmy Carr?
Alan.
Princess Di or Jade Goody?
Di.
Blair or Brown?
Brown.
Michael Jackson or Tim Westwood?
Michael Jackson.
Peter Andre or Steven Hawking?
Peter Andre.
What do you think the BNP could do to improve its appeal to gay voters?
Erm, ooh, I don’t know. I haven’t a clue.
In terms of the BNP’s repatriation policy on immigration, if you had to choose, who would you repatriate first – Dizzee Rascal or Tinchy Stryder?
Tinchy Stryder, ‘cos he’s not very well known. Dizzee Rascal’s more of a worldwide-known icon.
What should we do with Lenny Henry?
I don’t even know who that is, sorry.
Which do you dislike more, Muslims or black people?
Muslims. I’ve never seen any advertisements about blacks who come here and don’t work. It’s more the Muslims, ‘cos basically that’s what I object to. My mum split up with my dad a couple of years ago, and she was going to get a flat off the council, and the first question they asked her on the form was “Are you an immigrant?” I don’t agree with that, you see, so that’s where it started from.
So you agree with the BNP’s send-em-back policies?
Yeah.
But would it be possible to maybe come to a compromise with a noble race like the Chinese? Perhaps keep them on as a sort of servant class?
Yeah. I wouldn’t mind them if they actually worked and didn’t take all of our jobs, basically. I wouldn’t mind them if they contributed something to this country.
What nationality would you most like to keep on in the UK?
African, because my nana’s African. She was a white African from somewhere next to Cape Town. She moved back here in 1987 or something. My granddad was in the RAF over there and she came back with him.
So what nationality would you most like to be waited-on by as a servant class?
Oh God, there’s a few. There’s a couple I would, but I can’t really pinpoint one.
Go on.
I don’t know. Chinese maybe?
Sure thing. What ethnicity would you most like to make love to?
Oh, God, British.
Outside of that?
Say… black.
What if immigrants only asked to be allowed into the country on condition they had been sterilised, so that they couldn’t create any children to further burden the state? Would that be a potential solution?
Um, yeah, I think so.
Let’s try a word association game. Just say the first word that comes into your head.
OK.
Golly.
Wally.
Rag.
Rug.
Goose.
Duck.
Oswald.
Place.
Concentration.
Head.
Bunny.
Rabbit.
Finally, has anything amusing ever happened to you in connection with spoons?
Spoons? Erm, no.
GAVIN HAYNES
so britain can disrupt the cultures of asia and africa, but then they get pissed when these people come to britain. that makes about as much sense as fart flavored ice cream
Posted by: scaphoid | 07/07/2009 at 06:53
these people need to just grow up and accept that people immigrate to other countries and that's not something you can stop. maybe its cus im from california but i dont think complaining about immigration makes any sense. its a natural fact.
Posted by: poooooooocittttayyyy | 07/07/2009 at 07:29
whats with the spoon questions?
Posted by: king felix | 07/07/2009 at 09:52
I love this article. it sows the calibre of people that support the bnp. Its a shame that one of the most intelligent hubs in the world (UK) isn't able to help these poor lost souls through the education thats FREE for all. Wake up ladies. Big titties will only get you so far. by the way, they do tend to wrinkle after a while ;)
Posted by: Black Man | 07/07/2009 at 10:56
ur all dumb and dont know what your talking about......
Posted by: ray sweeney | 07/07/2009 at 11:47
the 19-year old Jo seems to be the most intelligent of them all.
i can't wait for our british facist overlords to rule from her's majesty throne.
god bless britian, and neo-colonialism.
i can only hope for the return of Rhodesia.
Posted by: sweeney ray | 07/07/2009 at 12:46
she said nelson mandela is a villain, did you read that!oooh weee
im sure she'd rejoice at the "shower theory".
Posted by: el cape town | 07/07/2009 at 13:50
Jesus Christ!!! Jo Bell... (A.K.A. Amy Sedaris)!! I'M UP TO YOU, YOU HOOKER! LOL...
Posted by: ANGELA | 07/07/2009 at 14:38
bunch of tarts!!!!!
Posted by: charlotte | 07/07/2009 at 15:16
Wow, the BNP really stepped it up with their cameras I see. What is this, a .02 megapixel? It looks like Tetris blocks.
Posted by: Brad | 07/07/2009 at 15:29
none of these girls seem to have a clue about what the BNP stands for
Posted by: go figure | 07/07/2009 at 16:30
yall some pieces of shit first off your country has gone and populated foreign countries throughout history. its time that England gets taken over and sees what it is like to get run by foreigners. how do you think the indians felt when you went there and took over their land and suppressed their many cultures which happen to be ten times more interesting than just fish and chips and the beatles. Africa... yall owe africa so much... you are the reason why so many african countries are in the position they are,,, yall need to eat a dick become educated and shut the fuck up and open your legs... peace
Posted by: jnevs | 07/07/2009 at 16:30
one girl admitted to being racist, and and another said she know she sounding really evil. sounds like they joined the right party.
Posted by: TheDon | 07/07/2009 at 16:31
"Yeah. I wouldn’t mind them if they actually worked and didn’t take all of our jobs..." Yeah that makes perfect sense you dumb twat!!
Posted by: aesk47 | 07/07/2009 at 17:09
what's wrong with the youth of today?
Posted by: louuu | 07/07/2009 at 17:36
gavin i love you!
Posted by: sonora | 07/07/2009 at 17:49
lol wow... sounds like typical US southern trash. Believing in something their not even well educated on. Dumb broads.
Posted by: Dirk | 07/07/2009 at 18:37
I'd still fuck 'em!
Posted by: YankeeMyShank | 07/07/2009 at 19:07
"Yeah. I wouldn’t mind them if they actually worked and didn’t take all of our jobs, basically."
Spot the contradiction.
Posted by: Vig | 07/07/2009 at 20:58
Oh my, really didn't people could be so stupid!
This really does prove my point that the BNP is an uneducated party for the uneducated, lower class idiots.
Posted by: 84rk4 | 07/07/2009 at 22:12
Allow the magnitude of their ignorance. I'm speechless. They're the kind of people that have to exist in the world, so that the rest of us can feel good about ourselves, because we're different to them.
Posted by: bnp=poo | 07/07/2009 at 22:49
No seriously, what's with spoon question you asked everyone?
Posted by: PB | 07/07/2009 at 23:14
i agree.... but muslims are scary as fuck and they have already taken over whole towns and counties in britain. So its hard to bash the BNPs immigration policies unless you've lived in britian and have seen Sharia law slowly but surely approaching democratic majority everytime a muslim puts their foot on british soil.....
lets pray none if them get into office.
Posted by: joe love | 07/07/2009 at 23:54
the spoon Q is lifted from private eye
Posted by: mosca | 08/07/2009 at 00:30
I know, I know, if you're racist you're a horrible person, etc - I get it, I get it.
BUT, what's happening in the UK is the government has adopted the policy of Canada and 'multiculturalism' and have put forth the view that there is no such thing as British culture, that all the immigrant cultures are just as relevant.
This is conceivable for Canada because it's a brand-new country that really IS made up entirely of immigrants.
This doesn't work for Britain, which has a genuine centuries-old culture. This is why there is enormous resentment against the immigrants who don't even TRY to adapt to local culture. It IS insulting and it doesn't make you racist.
Posted by: Old enough | 08/07/2009 at 00:56